You start today right?!? Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. I've got my pompoms ready to cheer you on!!!! Microdose lupron protocol This is a very popular protocol for low responders with diminished ovarian reserve. Beta 1/22: 14 Beta 1/24: 24 Beta 1/26: 28 If we believe that a particular patient will not respond well to stimulation medications, either because she is older, she has diminished ovarian reserve, or she has had previous ovarian surgery, we will frequently use our poor responder protocol. Stimmed for 12 days and had retrieval on day 14. IVF#4 (Dec2013/Jan 2014): Microdose flare+Saizen+testosterone 4 eggs retrieved, all mature and fertilized by ICSI, ET of 1 6-cell embryo an 1 8-cell embryo graded 2 and 3. fainting. An EPP for your friend. DH 38- Low EverythingMe 33- AMH .9Married 11 years 2002-current IUIs, meds, natural = All BFNAug. IVF #2 Nov '118R/8M/4F 3dt x2 - chemical, IVF #4 Jan '13 BFN 11R/6M/6F 5dt x2 - BFN, IVF #5 July '13 16R/10M/10F 5dt x2 + 1 frostie. Maybe it is too soon for bloating. Instead we are doing estrogen priming followed by microdose lupron. -We're both. Some of these involve the use of oral medications, such as Clomid or Femara in addition to gonadotropins. Background: I'm 35. 1Frostie. thanks! :) But after my horrible #2 cycle, knowing I really would probably only do one more I gave it all I had for three-four months. 0000000736 00000 n Hope it makes the difference for you! But I believed we switched because of not getting eggs. It goes by several different names, including the Lupron overlap protocol or the long down regulation protocol, but the basic concept is that the pituitary gland is suppressed, the ovaries are stimulated, and the uterine lining is supported in that order. Femara-Antagonist Protocol. sudden, severe decrease in blood pressure and collapse. 6R. I had 4 but 3 stopped growing around day 6 so they weren't frozen. It seems to be . I see a lot of people have taken Lupron. . Thanks. Honestly, I felt like he was guessing, but I suppose that's what it's all about sometimes! Countless BFN(s) Short protocol for low responders We have discussed GnRH agonists as a suitable treatment for low responders. Er 1: 5 mature eggs, follistim 200 iu everyday with ganirelix, no menopur, no priming - frozen. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I recently suffered a miscarriage at 7 weeks. Where do we go from here? Beta 2 = 4822 7wk u/s= 2 heartbeats! Hi, I have taking for a year Ubiquinol 300 mg , DHEA 100 mg, omega3, royal Gelly, L Arginine, wheat Grass, maca, methylfolate and prenatal. I was diagnosed with high FSH (16). We had some other changes too, with DH. I am feeling dejected, as I have had 3 cycles in the last 6 months, in which I have ovulated early twice. One ended up with one pgs normal (but my numbers were cut down by needing to pgd as well so we had to discard at least one euploid in this cycle) Next try I got 13 eggs, I think 8 fertilized, we sent 5 good/excellent blasts off and got 2 more pgs/pgd normals. trailer 8 fertilized w/ IC, Im about to do a frozen embryo transfer but I have very thin uterine lining. sometimes a bcp is used for this same purpose. For those of you unfamiliar, mini stim is for poor responders who don't have much luck in obtaining a large number of eggs. Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE. Hi ladies just looking for any inspiring stories! I am going in for my 4th IUI in what was supposed to be an IVF cycle. I did 10 days of BCP, then Lupron, repronex and Gonal-F for about 10 days. Bilateral Tubal Ligation. Microdose lupron flare protocol.. Lupron Depot is used in women to treat symptoms of endometriosis (overgrowth of uterine lining outside of the uterus) or uterine fibroids. IVF 1 - on BCP protocol. What now - IUI, Adoption, Donor Eggs or Donor Embryos, Retire Early?! At 43 I see now looking back it truly is egg quality. With IVF#1, I only got 2-3 mature follies. 2TFR'ed. were initiated in patients receiving MDF. Your diagnosis of --- EDD 4/5/15, "Everything will be alright in the end. This handout is staff as legal aid cannot provide patients with general information. While some practices make a big deal over the choice of gonadotropin (some use only recombinant FSH, such as Gonal F or Follistim while others primarily use urinary hMG drugs such as Bravelle or Menopur), most studies suggest that there is very little if any difference in pregnancy rates between the different medications. No MFI at all. Any help would be greatly appreciated looking for hope this time around.. Hi everyone, does anyone have any thoughts on which protocol is better for older women and which protocol is best for retrieving good quality, chromosomally normal eggs? Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). Now is the perfect time to start your Baby Registry! Thanks everyone. I did microflare lupron after being diagnosed with elevated FSH. Suite 1200 A couple of things to keep in mind with MDL, I started with a AFC of 7 (pretty average for me) and for the first several days of stimming (5 at least) there were only 7-8 growing and my E2 was super low. 07/23 - Injection #1 This is a community for those who have gotten pregnant after a struggle with infertility. Or tips on handling side effects? Round Rock, Texas 78681, 5000 Davis Lane, Ste 100 From what I've read on the boards, the start of FET prep typically begins 30 days after Injection #2. In the regular IVF protocol, Lupron and BCP are used for at least 2 weeks before ovarian stimulation. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Estrogen Primed Antagonist Protocol. 600mg Ibprofin(sp?) How are you feeling? After the 6th negative pregnancy test, they did a "pregnancy loss" bloodwork panel. 1st U/S @ 6w2d showed one perfect little heartbeat! Thank you! IVF3 (ICSI/CCS): Antagonist with EPP Unfortunately, one of them did not thaw successfully. Our most common protocol utilizes Lupron as a trigger instead of hCG to mature follicles prior to egg collection. We learned, after mont, Hello I am hoping and praying that all 4 make it to day 5 for. But as I said.. 2TFR'ed. Long awaited FET on 9/3. I am not familiar with it, but I will definitely some research. We were so lucky that the one was all we needed! What did do when you had a cancelled IVF cycle? I have stage III endo so it made sense to do BCP and Lupron as both can help push endo essentially into remission. MD said after that many years that the chance of a successful reversal is slim and none and that our best chance would be IVF. You're on your 4th so you should have a lot of good info guiding your RE in this direction For me, I did 3 IUIs with 6 follies initially, then 4, then only 2, respectively, and on IVF#1 I had only 2 follies so we canceled and just did IUI, all of this BFN, and IVF#2 only had ONE follie which we did the ER w/ICSI and it didn't fertilize. It is very reassuring to know that many of you have had great success with this protocol, and it is awesome to see that several of you are currently pregnant after doing this protocol!! The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. Any advice is welcome! MENTS I married at 39 and got pregnant naturally a year later, then miscarried. Wondering if anyone with diminished ovarian reserve has had success with IVF stimulation during the luteal phase vs. the follicular phase? We started our IVF journey in 2014. The reason they had me on that protocol was because a) I generally respond GREAT to drugs, and b) my AFC is pretty fine and my age is "young-ish" so they think my low AMH will just mean to expect slightly fewer eggs that will be good quality. Would estrogen priming be safe for a baby if I do happen to be pregnant? I would like to know if any has been on the EPP/ MDL protocol ? 1 Call nurse with cd1 Start Microdose (md) Lupron twice daily and continue to take estradiol stopping on cycle day 10 units md Lupron Estradiol 2mg 10 units md Lupron . I am currently going for my 7th retrieval. Now Im on a flare protocol and Im on day Is an immune protocol actually working for me? But other doctors have mentioned that it is great for women with DOR. We retrieved 4 eggs. 16dp5dt. Guessing my trigger will be on 10/1. Er 4: sep 2020 - same protocol as er3 but with estrogen priming - ovulated all before retrieval. Both my l, Short protocol or long protocol for older women. On the other hand, the Long Agonist protocol can't use Lupron as the trigger because it already deploys Lupron elsewhere. TTC 2 years. It is possible that the ovarian stimulation process on the egg donor would be shorter or longer than that shown above. Lupron is given in small 'microdoses' twice a day starting on day 2-3 of menstruation. I had 16 eggs, 10 mature and all 10 fertilized. There seems to be two schools of thought: This is primarily because of the unpleasant side effects: mood swings, headaches, and hot flashes. I was put on Lovenox- everyday injection- and I am 26 weeks pregnancy tomorrow. I stimmed for like 15 days, got 5 eggs, 3 fert with icsi, all disintegrated basically, no blasts. ER #1: primed with aygestin, antagonist protocol (225 gonal f and 150 menopur, no omnitrope) baseline AFC (8 or 9 not sure), 5 follicles growing, 5 retrieved (estradiol 1200), all matured and fertilized, 2 day 6, 1 euploid. My doctor refunded some costs and wants me to try again. Concerns about timing of Lupron Depot protocol, Insight on New FET Protocol? That is the reason why we are doing IVF. February 2011 :) I was a low responder my first round as well, only 1 frozen blast that didn't stick. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. 18 0 obj<>stream END MENTS My body just doesnt want to respond to the little blue estrogen pills. Has anyone done the flare protocol and had success? I am 28. Slow growing/No follicles with Lupron Stop protocol? It's crazy how so much of it is trial and error. Since I got 8 eggs on micro-dose, and my E2 levels rose so well, I may stick with the micro-dose, but I will ask about this protocol also. Foll, and Meno. i.really hope.that this year brings me some.good.news..thanks.for sharing your story. Utilizing advanced tools and technologies, our doctors take on the toughest cases, providing renewed hope for would-be parents. Lupron microdose protocol. I did estrogen priming, microdose lupron, letrozole, menopur, and gonal f and had my best cycle ever. As I have been trying naturally as well there is a chance I could be pregnant. However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. Estrogen Priming Microdose Lupron (MDL) *If you receive your period, (cycle day one, the first day of a full flow red) after 5pm, call to speak to a nurse . Apparently we waited too long ? I have had 3 Doctors want to use Lupron in some form. Called the flare, the microdose flare, or the low dose Lupron protocol, this regimen uses the same medications as the Lupron overlap protocol. Had 20 eggs retrieved. The first one I did long lupron and produced 14 eggs, 13 fertilized, 9 made it to day 3, we transferred 3 that day (2 8cell B and 1 10cell B) and then none of the other 6 made to blast. During the first few days of Lupron, the ovaries are stimulated by the natural pituitary hormones (the flare . Did they convert to IUI? Is it normal to see NOTHING the first ultrasounds?? Antagonist Protocol or Short Protocol: This is the most commonly used IVF . In summary, ovarian stimulation is a very complex process. Has anybody over 38-40 with DOR tried lupron flare and had success? What should we try that we haven't already? They are concerned about egg quality. agonist, antagonist, etc) Even though my eggs were older as I was 37 at the time, versus 35 when I started, we transferred 2 and were successful with a singleton. Only thing I can pinpoint is age. I wanted to know for those who have PCOS (i have mild PCOS) which IVF protocol yielded a BFP for you ? Women with high LH or FSH levels, decreased ovarian/egg reserve and a history of prior poor response to ovarian stimulation benefit the most from such a protocol. Advanced Fertility Care Injection Teaching Videos. 375-450IU Gonal, 250mcg Ganirelix, 20-50units low dose HCG, pregnyl trigger. I do believe the MIcrodose Flare P is the way to go for women older with fewer eggs. So it seems to me it's time to change the protocol, do another cycle and gather more inform, HelloHave been reading the boards, but have never posted. 0000006212 00000 n EPP with CCRM has been my best cycle yet in regards to embryo quantity and quality! Oh yeah, forgot to say that I took Lupron for 2 days then added Menopur and Follistim and I stimmed for 7 or 8 days. Anyone have success with this protocol? 1st ultrasound 10/1: TWO beautiful heartbeats! Earnest Letter. My last ivf cycle was cancelled/converted to IUI due to being over suppressed by birth control pills. Estrace(90 tabs)-estrogen How to Cope After a Failed IVF Cycle Cry and Sob and Wail. Final u/s showed 5 follicles, stimmed for 2 weeks but ovulated all during retrieval. I often find myself feeling really hopeless. Experience with Estrogen Priming Protocol? My last two cycles resulted in only one embryo viable for testing which in the end were aneuploid. Next protocol will be micro dose lupron. Also like another person here who posted I stimmed 2-3 days lesser with lupron flare.. Significantly fewer eggs than follicles? 0000009266 00000 n Lots of failures (8 embryos didn't implant - mostly FET) and 1 success - we have a 3 year old son from a fresh IVF. Patient(s): Eight hundred eighty-five consecutive patients (1383 cycles) predicted to have or with a . So now we are dealing with issues on my side and i'm only 26 years old. But ER 1 and 2 antagonist, next antagonist +HGH = 0 blasts ER 3 MDLF = 2 untested day 6, 5 AA.. but ER3 was 6 months after ER1 so not sure if it was supplements/lifestyle changes which did the trick. Once down regulation was obtained, the lupron dose was decreased to 0.125 mg daily and gonadotropin stimulation was initiated. I did this protocol for my cycle. Can anyone add to this list? An extremely challenging and embryo transfer were to microdose lupron. Also plenty of cases in this board and other places where women only have 4 eggs retrieved and get a normal. Amazing! Thanks! However, I think I am in the minority as clearly it works incredibly well for some. I didn't respondall thatwell to my Follistim-Ganirelex protocol during IVF #1 and my RE told me today he's going to try this for #2. Round Three Result 6/25: BFN and also why some of us seem to have Pills that are not really needed. 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